Cool as you like it – Stephen Holt on the return of Inspiral Carpets


Praise Be: Inspiral Carpets, 2014. From the left – Clint, Martyn, Stephen, Graham, Craig

If you’d heard the album Inspiral Carpets in recent weeks without knowing the full story, you could be excused for thinking this was a debut LP.

Not just because the band chose their own name for the title, but the fact that this North Manchester collective seem so fresh, as if eager to get their songs out there for the first time.

In many respects it’s a case of carrying on where they left off though – not from their 2003 comeback nor even their initial break-up in 1995, but the day founder member and vocalist Stephen Holt left in 1989.

Inspiral Carpets were on the brink of success then, the album Life partly written and major interest in their initial recordings set to secure a deal with Mute Records.

In 1990 they had a top 20 hit with This Is How It Feels and an album only kept off the summit by a retrospective Carpenters compilation.

By then Stephen was leading The Rainkings though, with Tom Hingley taking over his vocal duties.

But the fruits of his eventual return – joining Clint Boon, Graham Lambert, Craig Gill and Martyn Walsh – can be heard on their new self-titled Cherry Red album, with the results arguably more in keeping with the band’s initial sound.

Either way, the reception from fans and critics alike has been largely positive, as Stephen revealed.

“Sales haven’t been tremendous, but the reviews and feedback have been brilliant, with many seeing it as either the best or second to Life of the albums we’ve done.

“We’re quite conscious of the fact that it’s our first album in 20 years, but in reality it only took us around six months to write the album.

10747_767029933354577_6025699866868471112_n“Since I came back we’ve been doing loads of gigs, starting with a greatest hits set, a live tour and a couple of Record Store Day gigs.

“We only started kicking round the idea of the album at the start of this year, when we got contacted by Cherry Red, seeing if we’d be interested in doing an album, getting Dung 4 out again, and all that.

“One of the big things about me coming back was that I didn’t just want to just do the hits – they could have got someone else in to do that.

“I wanted to do fresh material, as did everyone else, and I think one of the reasons it sounds so fresh and spontaneous is because we’ve had to just thrash the songs out and make it seem live.

“In the past some of the lads said they’ve gone into a studio and spent around a week finding the right drum sound.

“But with this we did it in our spare time really, because we’ve all got other things on. Trying to get together for long period of time has proved difficult.”

I put it to Stephen that there’s a bit of a Teardrop Explodes or perhaps Mighty Lemon Drops vibe on a couple of songs, not least super-catchy single You’re So Good To Me, albeit with Clint’s tell-tale keyboard sound.

“Oh, massively, and even when Tom was in the band, he got compared to Julian Cope for his voice.

“It’s a weird one though, because with this album, for the first time we’ve all had a hand in writing songs.

“We all bring in ideas and it’s a band effort, so there are five different sets of influences there.

inspiral-carpets-life-dung8-560x560“But it’s about having that confidence to bring those ideas in too. You jam a bit, kick things around, then go for it!”

You’re doing it all for the right reasons too, I’m guessing. You didn’t have to have a crack at all this just to make a few quid, did you?

“No, and when I came back I was keen to do new stuff, while one of Clint’s big ambitions was to get that sound of Life as well as Trainsurfing, Planecrash, those early singles again, back to that garage sound the band had – our old roots.”

Stephen was there on day one, of course. Can it really be 31 years ago he put the band together with Graham?

“That’s scary that, and makes me feel old!

“I’d known Graham from school days, although we were at different schools. But we were a little older when we started kicking things around.

“Craig was still at school though, doing a paper around then! We had to pick him up from the school gates sometimes when we were off to gigs in London or elsewhere.”

Well, if it was good enough for George Harrison …

“Exactly! Graham and I knew each other from the area, played a lot of cricket and football and had mutual friends, so our paths crossed.

“There were a couple of indie discos around the Oldham area too, which we knew each other from.

“It wasn’t just the music, but the same philosophy and ideas, the inspiration to have a go, get a band together and see how it would go.”

And that independent spirit remains with the band to this day, by the sound of it.

“Definitely, we still say there’s no way we’re the best musicians in the world or the best songwriters.

1383109_770000913057479_1308901377747573975_n“But we have fun, knock out some tunes we really enjoy, and hope others do too. We just have a go, and our spirit keeps us going.”

What music did you have in common back then?

“I’ve always been more indie, into Joy Division, The Teardrop Explodes, Magazine, Echo and the Bunnymen, and more American punky stuff like Dinosaur Jr., Husker Du and early REM.

“Graham had those kind of influences but had more of a 60s influence too, bands like The Seeds and ? & the Mysterians.”

Funny you should say that. I was revisiting that early material, and Joe and Planecrash were very The Teardrops meets The Stranglers, while Find Out Why had that similar energy and was kind of Ramones meets ? & the Mysterians.

“Definitely, and maybe we’ve always worn our influences on our sleeves. I guess that’s how Clint came to be in the band in those early days as well.”

Talking of Mr Boon, who I believe had a studio in Ashton-under-Lyne at the time, I guess he has a few years on the rest of the band.

“He has. I wouldn’t like to divulge that to you though! But we knew of Clint and would rehearse at his studio, where he recorded a few demos for us.

“Graham’s love of those American psychedelic bands resonated with him – that’s where they locked in. And Clint was a massive punk fan in the early days.”

Have you listened to those early demos recently?

“Yeah, and we were quite raw and punky. It wasn’t until the Cow demo, the legendary Dung 4, when we first had that keyboard sound that became our direction.

“You could see where we were heading by then.”

It’s funny really that bands like yourself and The Charlatans, caught up in that whole Madchester thing, proved to be the ones with the true longevity.

10702017_747557351968502_7185957488988954039_n“I know what you mean. When I first heard The Charlatans I thought they were more a Carpets and Manchester copyist band, with a little Spencer Davis influence too.

“The Stone Roses were around in those days, and the Mondays were forming, but there were a lot of other bands just trying to drag along on the coat-tails of it all.”

You didn’t seem to have too much in common with those bands you were grouped in with, at least musically.

“No, we were more about developing our craft, or more likely banging our way through what we were doing.

“From that whole scene we were always more on the outside, but got dragged along just for the fact that we were around at the same time.”

I agree with that view of the Inspirals as scene outsiders, confessing that – new to the area at the time, and possibly because of that Teardrops-like sound – I felt they were more Liverpool than Manchester in certain respects.

I now know better perhaps, not least because of their Oldham roots and through listening to Stephen’s Mancunian tones.

“That’s interesting, although I’m not sure if some people would like us being referred to as a Scouse band!

“But I guess we’re more a northern North Manchester band, with an Oldham and Moston feel!”

I do know that when I started visiting Lancashire in the late ‘80s, you were all over Granada TV. So perhaps we’ll just compromise and just say ‘North-West’.

“Yeah, maybe.”

For all that, it was that old standby of John Peel airplay that made the difference, the legendary Radio 1 DJ playing the Planecrash EP then inviting them in for a session.

“He was a massive influence on the band, and the catalyst for us moving on, not least when he started playing Planecrash.

10615418_770001466390757_8089866631935238283_n“I would listen to Peel a lot, and we had a bit of a nod that he was about to play that first single. And when it came on first song, that really made my day!

“We then got invited to do a session and play live for a couple of his student nights, getting to meet him. That was brilliant.

“That was me made, really. At that time, to get played on Peel … well, I mean!”

Even by 1989 the Inspirals were going down the truly independent line. Is that something that helped them adapt to a very different music business 25 years later?

“I think so. Clint says – and he’s totally right – we’re hard-working, with a real work ethic, not afraid to go out and do however many gigs we feel necessary to put ourselves out there.

“There was also the thing with developing our own Cow record label, the merchandise thing with the t-shirts, and all that.

“We were never the sort of band to wait around for someone to come along and say they liked us, then just sit around and let them do it.

“That’s still the case, helping whoever’s working with us. Perhaps it’s our Northern working class roots.”

Ah yes, the merchandise. Everyone will remember those early band t-shirts too.

Cool Head: Clint Boon with an IC original canvas, auctioned off in aid of the CLIC Sargent children's cancer charity

Cool Head: Clint Boon with an IC original canvas, auctioned off in aid of the CLIC Sargent children’s cancer charity

“Yes, definitely, and even now there are people probably way too big, and old enough to know better, asking us for ‘cool as fuck’ t-shirts!”

But then, with half of the album written, Stephen and bassist Dave Swift left to form The Rainkings. Can he remind us why?

“For Dave it was never really permanent. He was around for the first singles but had been my best mate for years.

“He lived around the corner from me, went to the same school and were in schools bands together.

“He was and still is a great guitarist, but we’d just sacked our bassist, Scott, who went on to join the Paris Angels, and needed someone. So I said, ‘I know Swifty …’

“He came in just as it all picked up, but had done two years at uni and was struggling, feeling he needed to concentrate on that to get through his last year.

“With me, and I regret quite a bit of it now, things had started to change. The way I saw it was that a lot of that early spirit had gone.

“I guess I was a bit naïve there, but it had been about us doing it all, arranging the gigs, singles, and so on.

“But after Planecrash, managers and agents and all that getting involved, it seemed to be taken away from us.

“Clint was more driven in that respect, and Graham too, so they were moving the band in a direction I wasn’t so sure about.

Moptop Days: Inspiral Carpets, back in the day

Moptop Days: Inspiral Carpets, back in the day

“Rather than speaking up and saying, ‘I’m not sure about this’, I moved towards Swifty a bit more and we became more unsure and the negative side of the band.

“Meanwhile, Clint, Craig and Graham took a more positive view and were moving on. So I was thinking maybe this wasn’t for me. I’ll try something different.”

And how was it for Stephen to see the band’s subsequent success from the outside?

“I couldn’t have been more pleased for them, really. I knew it was right for them and never said anything negative, and wished them all the best.”

Those were heady days for the Inspirals of course, their second LP The Beast Inside also going top five the next year, with the band trying to break the US market too.

Then 1992’s Revenge of the Goldfish was also a top-20 album, but while 1994 offering Devil Hopping also made the top 10 and that fanbase never really fell away, a split followed.

“I was keeping an eye on how they were doing, but didn’t really have much contact with anyone for around 20 years.

“From what I understand, Mute let the band go, although demos were made for another album beyond Devil Hopping.

“But maybe things weren’t right between all five members. I think it was a case of ‘if we’re having a break from Mute, let’s have a break from the band’.”

Stephen had carried on recording, bringing out a couple of singles with The Rainkings on Playtime in 1989 and 1990. How does he think they stand up today?


Inspiral Spotlight: The band in live action

“Erm … the first single was … bad really. We rushed it, having been pushed by the label to an extent.

Trainsurfing ended up on Cow rather than Playtime, so I think they thought they’d been shafted by Inspiral Carpets, and instead jumped on The Rainkings, pushing us to challenge them, although we weren’t ready.

“But I’m still really proud of the second single, the Get Ready EP, which we recorded with Ian Broudie.

“That was another honour, not least because of his work with The Teardrops, The Bunnymen, and Wild Swans. He was an icon.

“We were together for around six or seven years, but weren’t the most active band!”

I’m guessing there were day-jobs by then.

“Yeah, Swifty went from uni straight into work, and I was developing a career, something I’m still doing now.”

Stephen manages a drug and alcohol support service in North Manchester these days, having studied social sciences during his early band days, then working in mental heath and support for vulnerable people.

But by the time The Rainkings were over and done with, Stephen’s old band-mates had their own thing going again.

“Yeah, Clint had The Clint Boon Experience and moved into DJ-ing, and Tom was putting together The Lovers and other solo work.”

Crucial Three: Clint Boon, The La's legend Lee Mavers and a certain Noel Gallagher (Photo  from the Inspiral Carpets facebook page)

Crucial Three: Clint Boon, The La’s legend Lee Mavers and a certain Noel Gallagher (Photo: Inspiral Carpets facebook page)

One of the Inspirals roadies famously formed his own band too, a certain Manc by the name of Noel Gallagher. So was he around in Stephen’s day?

“He was. He hadn’t started roadie-ing for us at that point, but was a massive fan, would come and watch and wanted to get involved.

“What I remember is this indie kid who looked pretty cool, wanting to be around the band, learn things and help out in any way.

“After I left, the band picked up on that as they got bigger, and from what I heard he did audition as the singer after I’d left.

“Even back then, he was always picking up a guitar, doing tunes, and people could see he had potential.”

There was a reformation in 2003, involving a single unearthed from those shelved Mute demos from 1995, followed by a couple of sell-out tours and notable back-catalogue releases.

“I was totally oblivious of it all at that time, I’d moved on. I knew they were touring but didn’t know they’d released anything.

“I believe they were offered loads of gigs and wanted a single to back that up.”

Sporadic touring followed, before Tom left in 2011 – supposedly frustrated at a lack of regular band activity – and Stephen stepped back into the Carpets fold.

0956_115322_InspiralCarpets_press_01Then came You’re So Good For Me and a big tour in 2012, then further dates with the Happy Mondays.

So did Stephen find both bands had grown up and become wiser for their respective experiences?

“Totally! Yeah, I think the Mondays were holding it together, had maybe learned from past mistakes and were doing it for the music.”

It’s been a busy 2014 too, with the Isle of Wight Festival, T in the Park, and a gig in  Manchester which proved to be another defining moment.

“Yeah, The Band on the Wall gig was the fastest-selling the venue ever had, the tickets going in around 10 minutes, I believe.

“We were putting things together for the album then and wanted a few warm-ups, but that turned out to be much more, becoming a focus for other stuff, including a DVD.

“That’s what’s also pleasing at the moment. We’ve still got our support, albeit with quite a few of them older and balder than they used to be. But there’s definitely a younger element to the audience as well.

“I love it when people say, ‘You were my dad’s favourite band and I’ve got all the old vinyl, now I’ve bought the new one’.

“It’s a heritage thing – music being handed down the generations, in some cases people coming along with their children to gigs.”

There was the Spitfire single to further whet the appetite before the album came out too, and finally that long-awaited eponymous LP, with a few more surprises.

Some 20 years after The Fall legend Mark E Smith memorably guested with the band, there’s a song with punk poet laureate John Cooper Clarke this time.

And the awesome Let You Down is a winner even beforeDr Reliable’ comes in to add some of his trademark wordsmithery.

“The Bard of Salford! As soon as we started doing that song, we knew it would lend itself to something like that.

10671370_782143185176585_8451125494888325489_n“With Clint a big Mark E. Smith fan, he brought him in on I Want You, so with John Cooper Clarke it was like, ‘is there any way we can bring him in? That would just be perfect!’”

It reminds me of JCC’s early classic recordings with Martin Hannett, teaming up with The Invisible Girls.

“Apparently, he didn’t like all that, feeling he was forced into putting music to his poems in those days, and it’s not something he wants to do again.

“But I agree with you, and we were so made up with what came back to us.

“We recorded the tune, sent that over, and we were lucky he was in Manchester, so Clint got him in at XFM to record it.

“We hadn’t heard what he’d come up with before. And as soon as he started …”

Was it a true hairs-on-the-back-of-the-neck moment?

“Oh, totally!”

And this whole album seems to bring the band full circle, the energy of those early recordings suggesting they’ve got more in the locker too.

So what’s next for Inspiral Carpets? Have you planned into the future on all this?

“We haven’t really. The plan was to give it this year, with the gigs lined up to finish the year and Let You Down possibly out as a single early next year.

“Then there’s a Butlin’s Minehead weekend, possibly with the Mondays again.

“Apart from that, we’re trying to let the album breathe really, give it a bit of time, see where it goes from there.”

Inspiral Shades: The Carpets, 2014 (Photo: Ian Rook)

Inspiral Shades: The Carpets, 2014 (Photo: Ian Rook)

Furthermore, the Inspirals are set to bring the curtain down in style in two respects at Preston’s 53 Degrees on December 21.

It’s not only the last of an 12-date tour but also the last gig at the popular university venue, another forced to close in these uncertain times.

“Yes, it’s sad that it’s going, but that was one of the main reasons when we were putting the tour together, deciding on it as the final night.

“We’re honoured, really. Graham’s been there a fair bit, and I believe it’s quite a venue. I’m looking forward to it.”

10734179_782482418475995_638652498223954997_nFor the full list of dates, and all the latest from Inspiral Carpets, head to their official website here.


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